Abbey Of The Iubhar Cinn Tragha . Newry County Down Ireland. |

33 human remains Found Beneath the floors of the Virgin Mary Church Newry Co Down |
A few of my own wee thoughts here. Please remember that word "assumed", because
learned gentlemen and women use it at every breath. The first young
male they refered to in the cutting above, has only half his skull remaining,
with ten wounds in it, (note) "PROBABLY" BY A SWORD ? eat your heart out Sherlock !! We have to remember that according
to these very smart Belfast people, this young man is an English fighter & was
supposedly killed at Yellow Ford & or at some other such assumed battle. A few words here below from and oxford journal can show you just what it was like in Newry at this stage in time. Among the Scots in Ulster, led by Major-General Robert Monro, a veteran of the Danish and Swedish armies, a reciprocal professionalism slowly began to emerge. On arriving in Ireland in April 1642, the covenanter forces under his command embarked on an orgy of revenge for the assumed killing of Protestant settlers. Following the capture of Newry, they summarily executed sixty townsmen, and drowned a number of women in a nearby river. Raiding parties in the surrounding countryside massacred men, women and children indiscriminately, and put to death captured Irish troops. However, as their initial ardour began to cool, those Scots with experience of continental warfare began to reappraise the situation. The murder of civilians and prisoners had simply enraged their enemies, and with no immediate end to the war in sight, the possibility arose that Scottish troops might well fall into confederate hands at some stage. Sir James Turner, who had served in Germany, witnessed the execution of some Irish prisoners after a skirmish in 1642. He wrote, ‘and herein also their revenge overmastered their discretion, which should have taught them to save the lives of those they took, that the rebels might do the like to their prisoners’. The realities of the conflict in Ulster gradually tempered the conduct of the covenanting forces, and by late 1642/early 1643, Turner recorded how the Scots either released Irish prisoners, or ‘made them work at our fortifications’. So it continued through out Ireland. http://past.oxfordjournals.org/content/195/1/55.full ( Around this time the savage practices of England and Scotland dramatically entered the Irish arena, albeit briefly. Following the defeat of the king in the first English Civil War, the marquis of Ormond surrendered the city of Dublin to the English parliament in June 1647. The new governor, Colonel Michael Jones (an Irish Protestant), commanded an army consisting of local Protestants and troops recently arrived from England. On 8 August, Jones defeated a confederate force at Dungan's Hill near Dublin, and the largest single massacre of the entire war ensued, with somewhere between three and five thousand killed. A battlefield rout often resulted in the slaughter of the fleeing enemy, but at Dungan's Hill the surrounded confederate forces retreated into a bog, where a contemporary diarist describes the killing of the rank and file soldiers ‘agus iad ceangailte, iar ceathramha [do ghealladh] dóibh’ (manacled after quarter [had been granted] to them).54 Not surprisingly, English sources make no mention of granting terms to the confederate troops, and the official parliamentary account of the battle, approved by Jones and published by order of the House of Commons, insisted that only those ‘not admitted to quarter’ were executed.55 Writing during the Restoration, Richard Bellings described how a Colonel Flower did grant protection to a number of confederate officers, but the parliamentarians ‘without mercy, put the rest unto the sword’.56 According to Thomas Fairfax, if troops surrendered upon mercy rather than quarter, the victorious commander was ‘free to put some immediately to the sword, if he s[aw] cause’. Nonetheless, Sir James Turner believed that ‘in such cases mercy is the more Christian, the more honourable, and the more ordinary way in our wars in Europe’.57 At Dungan's Hill, however, Jones ignored continental military conventions and acted instead according to the harsh dictates of Westminster. Similarly in Munster, the rabidly anti-Catholic Lord Inchiquin, reinforced with fresh supplies of arms and men from England, launched a bloody offensive deep into confederate territory. He massacred the handful of surviving defenders at the siege of Cashel in September, and executed the Highland/Irish contingent after the battle of Knocknanuss two months later, including their feared commander, Alasdair MacColla.58 So lets enter this assuming game they play, this first young man and the 32 others who were found , were basically all under 24 years old. This age category is not strange in its self, because it curiously matches the age group given for the similar finds in the Carlingford Cistercian abbey not so long ago. However we are not talking about that place are we, even though it was affiliated with Newry. Wouldnt be the done thing to over assume would it. Anyway back to these supposed 33 young British warriors who it is assumed went lost thier lives at Yellow Ford. Surley if they were English soilders they would have had armour of some sort, well at least one of them,even just a helmet, or a bit of chain mail on them somewhere, it seems to me they were all buried naked because not a stitch of clothing or armour was found ,not a sword not a knife,not a belt buckle,not a musket ball, not a single thing. Heres my assumption, these young people were young nuns & priests or monks. Now lets assume for the sake of being friendly and understanding that all 33 had the same head gear, or none at all as the case was, would the fact that all these victims who all had similar wounds not make you think it was the same fella that done them all to death. Makes one wonder did it happen in Carlingford at the same time, silly me again, sure isnt it now more than obvious, it did, that is if you assume that those poor unfortunates in Carlingford where at Yellow ford as well. There you go aint i smart with all this assuming. You could go on all day assuming |