NEWRY ABBOTS HOUSE

Most links found on this web site connect to first edition historical manuscripts & publication's showing precise statement's as written & or proof photo's of the place or point that is reefered to in regard to the real historically recorded annals' of Newryabbey in Co Down N. Ireland. All of these book's, map's, leaflets, guides, history book's, religious writing, & almost 200 year's of Newry & Mourne's memoirs & town guides along with associated English edited Newry town guides, leaflets & booklets & abbey supplements are the author's own Library. Important references from medieval Cistercian's recordsalong with period English State papers are included in order to show nothing but the truth in all eventualities. The author was born within the immediate Newryabbey enclosure & spent part his youth attending the abbey school & know's the whole abbey area like the back of his hand. In short he climed the walls of the abbey & went where he wasnt supposed to & discovered some boy hood scary reveling truth's. He see's the recent errecting of an alleged lost English Castle that uses an abbey chapel building as being in the manner of the preverbal cuckoo, and he finds this distortion of Newry's history as an affront to his ancient Irish culture, & those other culture's that were nursed with in this foundation of St Patrick.

For hundred's Of Years The English Have Battled To Take Control Of Newry. This Town was the most Important meeting place Of the Irish Kings of the glens. The Legends That Surround This Newry Tara Are Not In The Least Fictional. For Centuries Newry's Secret's Stayed In The Darkness because of the invaders & especially by Bagenals actions, who not only had Newry distorted , he also had a copycat Melifont Charter drawn to represent Newry to suit his plans.

Finally on this page, I find it necessary to say,that from my observations in this City of late it appears to me there is no thought at all given the preservation of the older part of Newry. That being the Abbey Building's of which Newry Mourne cleverly say they havent a clue about. Not one of the many walls or the few building of the abbey that exist, have a preservation order on them.

It wasnt a big job converting the abbey arches into BAKERY OVENS IN THE CHURCH of Newryabbey , (NEW MUSEUM) . The reception rooms which were across the street from Mc Canns 2nd bakery (opened in 1893) were occupied by the Lennon family in the 1960s & the Grants who lived in the lower section,were also part of Mc Canns first bakery (1835-1893) ; 2 ladys are seen walking up to the abbey gate post. Cart loads of human bones were reported to be removed from around these great Abbey houses over the years, and recently when they were both knocked down in 1973, there were masses more uncovered beneath them both. Was there a preconcieved plan to wipe out the remains of the Abbey at this date?. It would make you wonder. !! . The Abbots House was also a burial ground in its own right, it is written that tombs were in the walls and along the tunnels underground . Many times Castle street was seen to collapsed into these underground tunnels in the last 100 years. . These Abbey tunnels are vast and plentyfull even today, & if a person knew how to enter them as i do, you may live to tell the tale. Newry & Mourne constantly deny these undercrofts exist,yet they took great care in putting a glass floor over the entrance to the same in the so called Castle.

The Abbots House of Newryabbey should never have been in dispute. The abbey was built as an identikit model of the mother house in France, so all should be simple when looking for its where abouts, the thing to do is look at a map, and or do some real research on the issue whic i have done. The Cistercian abbot originally slept in the dormitory with the rest of his community, as stipulated in the twelfth-century customary of the Order. http://cistercians.shef.ac.uk/fountains/buildings/abbots_house/ It soon became common for abbots to have their own separate room(s) adjoining or adjacent to the dormitory. This development occurred at Fountains in the mid-twelfth century, when the abbot occupied what has been described as ‘a modest house’. It stood to the east of the latrine-block, which meant that he could share these facilities with the monks. From the early fourteenth century, the abbot’s house underwent alterations. The upper floor was expanded and restructured, to provide greater privacy and comfort. Partitions were inserted and a wall-fireplace added. The undercroft was converted to accommodate three prison cells, each with its own toilet and an iron staple in the floor, to which the inmate was chained. This being the case and a proper look at the map which out lines the abbots house,proves that the building that Newry and Mourne call the Abbots house is not remotely close to the one by the latreen in the Fountains map. There are other maps which show the abbots house in different parts of other abbeys, the one below shows the house as being a tower house in the area near the front of the chapel. So what is the truth in regard to Newrys abbot's house. One thing for sure for sure, it isnt the building that is being called Bagenals Castle.

Below the plan of a Cistercian church, I sent a copy of this to Newry Mourne at the on set of all, which they ignored. This map was sent to me by monks. Note the first detail, the building is 224 feet long, this is the precise length of the building that stands in Castle street today. If you were to walk from the entrance to Lidl to the Abbey yard corner, facing Pat Prices chippie,count your steps. Click plan for larger view.